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Sunday, April 9th, 2006
9:32 am
[sarenha]
Sunday, April 2nd, 2006
11:00 pm
[thesumo]
I'm giving a short presentation Thursday in my social policies class on partner benefits. Does anyone have any good links to resources you used last year or specific information about Charlotte policy before and after your involvement? Thanks guys. See you Easter maybe. :) Sooner or later.
Monday, March 20th, 2006
4:54 pm
[sarenha]
A Biit of Trouble Close to Home...
My school has begun blocking websites for the reson "Gay, Lesbian, or Bisexual Intrest". This is clearly a grievious problem. I have sent the man with the final say a letter asking him kindly not to block these sites, and would appreciate your support letters.

Sites blocked include TheAdvocate.com, Out.com, and Timeoutyouth.com.

His contact info is-

Steve Alexander
Chief Technology Officer for Cabarrus County

saexand@cabarrus.k12.nc.us



This was my letter-

Mr, Alexander.

I am a tenth grade student at J. M. Robinson. I am an avid user of school resources such as our resource and fiction books in the library and the school computers. Today one of my friends called me over to look at his computer and saw that his computer had been blocked from the site TheAdvocate.com which, you may know, is a news site for Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgender people of all ages. The reason for blocking the site was that it contained "Gay, Lesbian, and Bisexual interests."
As a person who believes in equality for all races, genders, and sexual orientations, I was very angry. I looked further, finding that Out.com and TimeOutYouth.org were also screened. Again, both of these sites have in the past been very helpful to me is research, I studied Out.com for a civics project and Time Out Youth is a local youth resource as well, and part of what they do is student education. I spoke to Karen Fisher today, who said that the sites had been banned because of their other than scholastic content, but as I am sure you see, they are in fact very much related to learning, every bit as much as any of the other websites that can be accessed.
I'm sure that your changing your site blocker to block sites with these themes are to keep your students on track, and I am sure you do not want to hobble or discriminate against any of them. For this reason it is imperative that you remove your screens surrounding the gay, lesbian, and bisexual resource and news sites, and do not make it seem as though you are valuing your heterosexual youth over your sexual minority students.

Thanks so much,
Savannah Seithel

704 455 8305

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Please be mindful and not accusatory in your letters- we don't want to be written off.


Thanks sooo much.

Current Mood: angry
Wednesday, March 8th, 2006
11:36 am
[sarenha]
Is anyone planning on participating in day of silence? It's going to be scary doing it on my own this year, without Mattye, Hayley, and Devin. At any rate, some of you could start it with your friends in your schools too.

http://www.dayofsilence.org/
Friday, March 3rd, 2006
12:14 pm
[flutesong]
God Created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve Argement - completly illogical.
Please keep in mind the following cautions discussed in previous post on historical-critical interpretation.
http://community.livejournal.com/puucyouth/8958.html#cutid1

The following discussion is about the Adam and Steve argument.
The passage this argument from Conservative fundamentalist literalist Christians comes from Genesis 1:26,27 and Genesis 2:18, 20-24 from the King James Version.

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Thursday, March 2nd, 2006
12:48 pm
[sarenha]
My KICKASS editorial for English
The Military’s Gay Ban: What is Wrong with America?
By: Savannah Seithel

It’s been around for decades- The US Military’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy. The proposal, once preached as a compromise between those who want rights and those who want to take them, is now emphasizing the already dire conditions of gay hatred in America. This legalized discrimination, while costing the U.S. millions of dollars, hurts all Americans, because everyone suffers from ignorance.
A commission of military experts announced last month that the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy has cost taxpayers 363.8 million dollars in the past ten years. In a time where funding is too short in schools to allow for many basic necessities, where many government held plans for the sick, elderly, and inhibited are falling apart because they have no monetary support, and where citizens in need of government help are constantly falling through the cracks, $363.8 million is an enormous number. According to C. Dixon Osburn, executive director of the Servicemember’s Legal Defense Network, says that $363.8 million could buy 3 dozen – 36 Blackhawk helicopters, 4,000 sidewinder missiles, or enough body armor vests to outfit the entire military force now in Iraq. This misjudged, wasteful movement of funds takes money from the war effort and shrinks the number of soldiers even as the recruiting numbers continue to fall sharply. Were those millions spent on helping the homeless or giving tax breaks to the poor, angry government watchdogs would question why our money should be wasted on those who will not work for their own and are therefore undeserving. Why is it that money is considered wasted when it is spent helping those in need, but not when it is spent hurting those who wish to serve America?
Of course, the policy has very adamant supporters. A group based in Topeka, Kansas is currently picketing outside the funerals of both gay people and soldiers who have died in the war. Supporting signs emblazoned with “God Hates Fags,” they preach that the reason why soldiers are dieing in the war is because the USA is still too tolerant of gays. This absurd and depressing movement actually teaches that God created missiles and roadside bombs in order to punish those in America and the world who believe in equality.
Fighting this are the Equality Riders, a group of young men and women who have been “other-then-honorably” discharged from the military because of their sexual orientation. These young veterans travel coast to coast to talk about their love and devotion to the country and about the injustices they have suffered. The bravado they show in the face of adversity is astounding, for they have the courage to speak out when others would silence them with hatred and a selfish belief that their life and beliefs are the right and only.
Something is wrong with America, when fighting against a group of people becomes more important than fighting for freedom. When the citizens are so desperate for a scapegoat that they blame war casualties on an unrelated group of people? As is translated from Hitler’s Mein Kampf, "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." What is wrong with America?

Current Mood: accomplished
Wednesday, February 15th, 2006
10:08 am
[flutesong]

Tuesday, February 14th, 2006
9:45 am
[flutesong]
Social Justice Debate - What does the Bible Really Say about Homosexuality?
There are 2 reasons I can think of for Unitarian Universalist (there are probably more) to know what the Bible says about homosexuality.

1. By doing social justice project on fighting for the rights of LGTB community, we continue to run into the opposition ( mainly Operation Save America - www.operationsaveamerica.com ). It is important to know from what source gives them the concern they should protest homosexuality as a sin against god and immoral. Does the Bible really have any valid argument for/against homosexuality.

2. Many of us as Unitarian Universalist, have a religious background from mainline Christianity. Many of us have studied the Bible many times over and would welcome a refreshing look back at what we have spent so much time studying for so many years.

I welcome any comments made. Arguments may be par for the course. I understand how sacred the bible is to people as it is to me. As a person understands the tenets of their religion, they are unlikely to give up their viewpoints and will thus argue. However, I suggest if you wish to take part to make sure you edit your comments first before your post. Please, do not revert to name calling or taking comments offline and harrassing people by their email address, icq, instant messaging or their individual livejournal posts. People to revert to such tactics will have their comments deleted and if harassment offline will be reported to livejournal.

I propose the historical-critical interpretation of the bible does not show that homosexuality is a sin. It reveals that the authors of the bible did not view homosexuals as sinners and thus not condemned by God.

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Saturday, January 21st, 2006
1:15 am
[gaurdiandragon]
hello
why doesnt anyone mention this in church anymore? what wos the point of this, its been so long since anyones mentioned it i almost forgot it… ya so what was the point of this if no one uses it?
Wednesday, August 3rd, 2005
5:02 pm
[sarenha]
Some research. I didn't know so many of these points of view are out there.
While looking for Bible verses… and trying to stay with specific ones, i ended up more on these other points of views...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31080

All of the cases that follow are interesting too… I really am uneasy about the term “hate language” put on the Bible, because of my own religious beliefs… but it’s true, and also is true of other holy literature as well. It’s frightening that many people gain purpose and understanding through words that are so angry, hurtful, and excluding.

Some Quotes on both sides-
"I want God's gay and lesbian children to know of God's unconditional love and acceptance of them as well. We cannot find any condemnation in scripture for committed monogamous same-sex relationships." Rev. Charles Coppinger, Chaplain of the Arizona Legislature in a letter to legislators, sent 2000-NOV-7, announcing that he is a gay male.
"The Genesis passage is very clear, that the sin of Sodom that brought on the destruction of the city was indeed linked to homosexuality." A. Mohler.
"The witness of the Bible is univocal about same sex sexual activity. It is always rejected as sinful. There is no distinction made between homosexual behavior that is part of the consensual acts of adults and other forms of such behavior." Ben Witherington III.
"Homosexuality and sodomy are not ethical sins. No one is being hurt, no one is being cheated, nobody's rights are being infringed upon. Homosexuality is a religious sin, analogous to other Biblical prohibitions, like not eating the carcass of a dead animal, or not sleeping with a woman during her menstrual cycle." Rabbi Shmuley Boteach
"In reality, there are no biblical literalists, only selective literalists. By abolishing slavery and ordaining women, millions of Protestants have gone far beyond biblical literalism. It's time we did the same for homophobia." William Sloane Coffin

And some information from religioustolerance.com>

The term “homosexual” dates from the late 19th century, when human sexuality began to be studied as a science.
There is no term that means homosexual orientation in the original Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek texts of the Bible. The authors of the Bible did not understand sexual orientation and thus did not write about it. Biblical authors had little or no understanding of same-sex committed relationships. Rather, they assumed that everyone was heterosexual, but that some heterosexuals engaged in sex with persons of the same gender. Thus, when you see one of these words in an English translation of the Bible, it is important to dig deeper and find what the original Hebrew or Greek text really means.
Some pastors cite Genesis 19, a passage that condemns homosexual rape, as proof that God hates all homosexual behavior. Yet they would never quote a verse that condemns heterosexual rape and state that it applies to all heterosexual activity.
We have noticed some pastors switching between Bible translations in order to find the version that is most critical of homosexual behavior. When quoting Deuteronomy 23:17 some deviate from their usual usage of the New International Version (NIV). It accurately translates the original Hebrew condemnation of male and female prostitution in the temple (a common Pagan practice). They prefer the King James Version (KJV) which incorrectly translates the passage as condemning female prostitutes and male "sodomites."

^http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibi.htm#cau

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibh.htm#ngpa

http://arc-t.org/debates-booklist.html#verses

http://www.fallwell.com/ignored%20verses.html

^ I love playing with ignored bible versus. “Well, I’d love to debate you, but I’m on my period, and you believe in a completely literal interpretation of the Bible… so you can’t talk to me, right?”

http://blogs.salon.com/0001772/thebibleandhomosexuality.html

^This man calls himself “Real Live Preacher” I found his style of commentary cut and dry and rather… well, amusing.

Did anyone know that there is a National Gay Pentecostal Alliance? Kind of neat... That messes up a stereotype I have had in my head about Pentecostal Christians.

Current Mood: cheerful
1:47 am
[thesumo]
For many of you who didn't make it Sunday..
Su copied a pamphlet about a young man "I was gay... but I changed." The way I understood it, she asked us to look up the bible verses referenced in the pamphlet and try to put them in context or see if they are different in different versions of the Bible. I've just skimmed over this, but it tells about how he was confronted by a friend I believe, and these are verses used to back up the statements he makes about Jesus and about homosexuality. If anyone wants to tackle a few of these that may be interesting, go for it :). You can find Bible verse online, and different versions may have completely different verses that could be interpretted differently, so that could be interesting to see. It's always good to see where someone else is coming from. (I've listed the verses in a comment to this entry)
Sunday, July 31st, 2005
10:42 pm
[thesumo]
A bit of thinking, and the urge to add a little something to this journal, since Perry adds something every day for us to think about :p
A few of my rules:
1. Honesty is (almost) ALWAYS your best option.
2. Trust yourself to make your own decisions. Allow your parents, friends, family to guide you, but make your own decisions.
3. Admit when those decisions are wrong.
4. Do not regret wrong decisions, just learn from them.
5. Know when to ask for help.
:) Love you guys. Have a good week.
Friday, July 29th, 2005
3:05 am
[flutesong]
Daily Life Strategies
Being a success and being a winner don't just happen. But you can make them happen if you know the rules and learn to play by them.
Thursday, July 28th, 2005
2:21 am
[flutesong]

We can bloom where we are planted. We can make our lives work right where we are.


You must be responsible for the reactions that come with your choices.
Wednesday, July 27th, 2005
3:54 am
[flutesong]
Daily Life Strategies

In order to get what you want now and set yourself up for what you want later, you have to take charge of the things that you can influence, and you have to stop whining about the things you cannot. Start thinking about which are which.
Tuesday, July 26th, 2005
3:13 am
[flutesong]
Daily Life Strategies
Everything you will ever be, you are now becoming. It's okay to live in the moment, but the choices you are making now are the building blocks for where you will be later.
Saturday, July 23rd, 2005
2:08 pm
[flutesong]
Daily Life Strategies

You cannot "cram" for life.

SuCceSsfuL
peOpLe
"ManaGe"
their
LivES!
Friday, July 22nd, 2005
2:13 am
[flutesong]
Daily Life Strategies

Do you think you've got the power to make big changes in your life to get what you want? Or do you think that because you're not yet self-supporting and on your own that you're pretty much stuck with what life gives you? I promise you, you've got a lot more personal power than you realize. You just aren't aware of how to use it.


You have to be your own
life manager,
and you're the only
life manager that
you'll ever have.

Only you can improve
on the job that you're doing.
Thursday, July 21st, 2005
3:33 am
[flutesong]
Daily Life Strategies
Ask yourself these questions every morning while you're contemplating getting out of bed:


"What do I want?"

"What is is I want to do in order to make my life better?"

"What is it I want to do to feel that I'm living with some passion and some kick-ass excitement?"

"What do I want to add to my life?"

"What do I want to eliminate?"


You can be one of the ONES who "GeTs It."
Wednesday, July 20th, 2005
3:10 am
[flutesong]
Daily Life Strategies
Knowing what you don't want in life is important because that makes it easier to identify the things you want to eliminate from your life.

The world works as a system -- Learn IT!

It's not uncool to want a better life and work toward getting it.
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